It's odd that no one seems to have issue with this. The Church is so clear on setting guidelines for everyone on how to live morally, yet they allow a Nazi into the Church as one of their princes and moral, spiritual leaders. Who gives a damn whether or not he didn't participate in killing anybody. The fact remains that he joined the Hitler youth guard, and didn't have the moral or ethical gall to say or do something. He preserved his life by standing by and letting others kill the Jews, Poles, etc. His inaction and lack of participation in rebelling against Hitler and the atrocities of that period were a sentence for those people to die. It says a lot about what and who he is. He is a political figure jousting for position in one of the richest, most secretive and possibly corrupt institutions in the world.
Now, I am sure there are a few good ones out there, but any institution that preserves and protects the very people who molest children or murder Jews, shakes the foundation of what I consider moral and ethical.
What is even more scary is Ratzingers' take on where the Church is going and the people who do not follow the faith. He is quoted as saying;
"Those who seek the truth find themselves objectively on the path that leads toHis antiquated doctrine is a throwback to the middle ages. Any take on the Bible as literal and as the justification to rule over others and to instill a religious totalitarianism within the Vatican, is a dangerous turn. Read the Washigton Post article from November 2004 and have a look at the following quote:
Christ"
Observers said Ratzinger’s views have been heavily influenced by the harrowing experience of two contending ideologies: fascism, which he experienced as a youth in Germany, and the Marxism rife in German universities during the 1960s.
“Having seen fascism in action, Ratzinger today believes that the best antidote to political totalitarianism is ecclesial totalitarianism. In other words, he believes the Catholic Church serves the cause of human freedom by restricting freedom in its
internal life, thereby remaining clear about what it teaches and believes,”
wrote John Allen, a journalist and biographer of Ratzinger.
Further evidence of his narrow perspective and lack of understanding of a global
cultural world, was during an interviewed quote he made to French newspaper Le
figaro that Turkey, a largely Muslim country, ought not be admitted to the
European Union.
"Europe is a cultural continent, not a geographical one. The roots that have
formed it . . . are those of Christianity," he said. "Turkey, which is
considered a secular country but is founded upon Islam, could instead attempt to
bring a cultural continent together with some neighboring Arab countries."
Ratzinger later said this was a personal view, but then again every view is personal, so I am only left with the unsettling knowledge that these views will permeate the Vatican.
So, just like that, in a puff of smoke, the choice has been made, and I think it's scary.
http://www.canada.com/national/features/pope/index.html
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During WW2, the pope actually met Adolf Hitler. How's that for hipocrisy?
I actually don't think you can blame the new P for being a Nazi Youth. With the propaganda at the time, it's understand to believe that a teenager might be brainwashed.
He's still a bastard, but that's because of his stance as an adult.
This is very true, as is the fact that joining the Right guard and Hitler Youth was mandatory. But, it is not his involvement in the Hitler youth guard that is occupying my mind, but his current neo-Nazi perspective on how the world works. It has been a reflection of history that the lack of fundamental freedoms and spiritual choice has led to oppressive societies with a complete disregard for the opinions of others. His Bull in a China shop personaliity, is what garnered him the title and position as prefect adn Enforcer in the Vatican during Pope J.P II's reign.
His current views scare me too. At least he isn't likely to live long.
Sorry, I made a few edits to the original post. It just needed more info.
He sure is a breath of foul air, isn't he?
Just what the Vatican needed: more conservatism. On the other hand, I don't know why anyone should be surprised. This is the same Catholic Church that got around to pardoning Galileo in 1992. Well, actually, the Pope didn't really clear things up completely--he said mistakes had been made but did not admit that the Church had been wrong to convict Galileo on a charge of heresy because of his belief that the Earth rotates round the sun.
So that's who we're dealing with. In light of that, is Ratzinger that much of a surprise? Nah.
yeah, i don't know enough about him to actually express an opinion, but i do know that the nazi thing (though did 'cause giggles earlier today, you know, terrified giggles) was all the stuff you were forced to do if you were in the country. and apparently he also was a deserter from the nazi party. but, like you said, it's not his past you take issue with, it's just that is the way the post reads, past is the first thing you bring up and you bring it up in a way that implies he doesn't have a right to be there because of the history.
Great topic.
Ben XVI was groomed to be Pope because of his dogmatic stance. The Cardinals knew exactly what they were doing. Catholicism is a closely controlled religion which requires the "Sheppard" keep his flock regimented or the Church will lose its power and $$$. It’s as simple as that.
Jess - Your'e right, it really isn't all that much a shock. Pope John Paul II was a well liked, but very conservative man, and he wanted his legacy to carry through the Vatican. Pope Benedict XVI was a wise choice as he was the enforcer of the laws of the Vatican during Pope J.P II's time.
But it is still scary.
Mainja - Very true, and that was my intent. I wanted to make issue of a number of things, but to also highlight the Vatican churches hypocrisy. If we are to believe that the Church is following the Bible as Jesus teaches it, then we can assume that the Church allows individuals who were pedophiles, or "alleged" pre-Nazi members back in, based on the parable of the Woman Adulterer and the Scribes in John 8:2-11 KJV. Jesus says unto the Scribes, who bring teh accused woman to Jesus and says "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."
Yet, Ratzinger is quoted as saying that those who do not follow the path of the (Vatican) Church are in effect damned and opposers of the Church doctrine and therefore unable to enter the kingdom of God. This goes against everything Jesus taught, as he said "love thy neighbours as thyself", as well as saying that it is God who will make the final judgement. But, it appears that ratzinger has a different view of that.
God, does my 15 years of Catholic upbringing and Bible study show?
Ms. Bees - that's a very interesting point. Many fail to realise that the Church is a very political institution. Remember that most canonic or archaic laws were made based on biblical morals. The Church is still tied to the state, and they do not want to lose their grip, so fear and staunch hardliners are their tactics. They put out their best Offensive and defensive guards.
Knottyboy - Although, I would have killed to get that Robe and fancy shmancy queer garb he was wearing for Halloween.
I would say that the Catholic Church will just continue to lose ground by choosing such a conservative Pope, but then again, women of my generation STILL send their children to Ontario's catholic schools. I have no idea how any feminist could do that. In fact, I worry less about Rome than this lack of separation of church and state in Ontario.
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